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| Start of #qc buffer: Wed Dec 05 23:17:26 2001 |
| * MJesus avisa que en breves minutos dara comienzo la conferencia sobre |
| ZealOS en #linux |
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| JALH | thanks :) |
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| erikm | JALH: how would you replace the low level kernel without having to reboot? |
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| velco | upgrading on the fly, how about processes (if have such cool stuff) which already use given module ? |
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| velco | err, fun stuff I mean |
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| LarstiQ | How is this different from (other?) microkernels ? |
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| dbg | how sybsystem state is preserved (if preserved) across module reload? do you have some generic interface/layer for this? or module has to deal with this task without any help? |
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| hensema | JALH: Will/does it have any API compatibility with other OS'ses (Posix)? |
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| Ikarus | He means the boot part, the most basic part. |
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| FloodeR | Has you a compilar? |
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| FloodeR | To the os? |
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| erikm | FloodeR: he uses gcc on linux to compile the stuff |
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| viXard | What license is Zealos under ? |
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| [freedom] | ZealOS & Hurd... The microkernel tech is really an alternative to the actual stile of OS's? |
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| gcc | In How Many Time do you think that your system will be complete? |
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| viXard | 300 years ? ;) |
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| matuchi | que pasa si un modulo en especial nuevo requiere de caracteristicas no disponibles en el kernel? |
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| JALH | english plz? :) |
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| FloodeR | What happend if a module require |
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| viXard | how many people working in the core team ? |
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| FloodeR | Capabilities not present in the kernel? |
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| FloodeR | :) |
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| viXard | yeah |
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| JALH | FloodeR, what do you mean? |
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| viXard | what´s the latest version released ? |
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| FloodeR | If you load a module that require |
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| FloodeR | An upgrade of other modules (core kernel, for example) |
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| FloodeR | What happend? |
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| [freedom] | No, linux never will be complete... :), but now he moves to the parallel computing... |
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| matuchi | yes what happen? |
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| viXard | How come updated modules won´t conflict to another one any other user have loaded first ? |
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| [freedom] | Where is the ZealOS documentation project? |
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| [freedom] | or only exits the mail list for devel? |
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| gcc | Is your System Supporting any Window Manager like Gnome? |
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| LarstiQ | Sawfish ? :P |
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| [freedom] | What is the default fs of this OS? |
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| viXard | jum |
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| viXard | ext2 i think he said |
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| [freedom] | or only coded suport for the linux fs? |
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| [freedom] | why ext2? |
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| FloodeR | Do you have any network support? |
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| FloodeR | bsd socket, for example? |
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| [freedom] | Now, around of the OS exists many util for this support, what about this? |
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| JALH | ? |
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| rapha | I think he wants to know wether there are enough utils, and apps for ZealOS to have success |
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| rapha | right, freedom? |
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| [freedom] | yea.. ;) |
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| rapha | :-) |
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| erikm | JALH: why doesn't the zealos mascot look as cute as tux? ;) |
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| viXard | don´t compare mascots, they get hurt ;) |
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| rapha | Mark, what about the execution of 'foreign' binary code? |
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| fernand0 | it looks very nice |
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| [freedom] | like .NET tech :( |
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| viXard | and bite you while you´re asleep XD |
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| [freedom] | Can i take adventage of the VM for the develop of Zeal? |
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| viXard | jeje |
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| [freedom] | ;) |
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| JALH | freedom, what do you mean? |
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| rapha | Another question you will probably answer like this, but a bit more wierd ... would it be possible to have ZealOS read a configuration file upon boot, then have it deciding wether the boot will be in text modus, or with a nice picture? |
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| [freedom] | The linux kernel people, use the Virtual Machines for the devel... |
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| viXard | is there any intetion to port ZealOS to other architecture ? |
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| JALH | ahh |
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| LarstiQ | UML ? |
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| [freedom] | yea... |
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| [freedom] | UML |
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| LarstiQ | JALH: How about Rik van Riel's VM subsystem project, will you be able to use that ? |
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| gcc | What about Security? |
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| rapha | Hardware drivers. How hard would it be to port all of linux' hardware support to ZealOS-modules? |
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| JALH | :) |
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| viXard | So, ZealOS will be on the wilde sooner than Hurd ? |
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| [freedom] | I insist, if you have modules, is possible the support for processors like PowerPC... |
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| [freedom] | Cisc or Risc Archit |
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| LarstiQ | JALH: Like the LSM ? |
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| JALH | yeah |
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| viXard | How come developpers doesn´t get in on Hurd project ? |
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| [freedom] | sounds really nice... |
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| LarstiQ | Lots of people work on the Hurd |
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| viXard | ya think ? |
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| [freedom] | Exists communication with other proyects with the same tendency? |
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| JALH | [freedom], nope |
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| [freedom] | like the Hurd |
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| LarstiQ | viXard: see the Debian Hurd kc ml |
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| [freedom] | okp |
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| JALH | yep |
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| LarstiQ | viXard: I am seeing that activly develops the hurd |
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| * LarstiQ shrugs |
| viXard | even Stallman ask to debian to get in part of debian GNU/Hurd team |
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| * LarstiQ knows Jereon |
| [freedom] | Any project have in mind specifications, what about this? |
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| LarstiQ | make that Jeroen :) |
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| viXard | asked |
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| LarstiQ | viXard: It still doesn't parse, what do you mean ? |
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| rapha | My Pentium-166 box loads Linux > 2.4.10 in less then 2 seconds. (From lilo to init). Can you make an estimation for ZealOS here, as far as possible as of the differences between both systems? Accept no limitations) |
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| viXard | pardon me ? |
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| cure!) |
| LarstiQ | viXard: "ven Stallman ask to debian to get in part of debian GNU/Hurd team |
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| viXard | even Stallman asked to debian to get in as part of debian GNU/Hurd team |
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| JALH | rapha, dunno, it loads instantly atm, I can't think it will take very long to load |
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| rapha | kay :) |
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| LarstiQ | viXard: I'm not sure what that means, everyone can work on Debian GNU/Hurd |
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| [freedom] | Now, if i need install Zeal OS, what about the partitions in my disc? |
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| viXard | yeah, I mean.... |
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| JALH | freedom, only supports floppy loading atm |
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| JALH | or you could do it via grub |
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| [freedom] | Grub, nice for me |
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| viXard | well, I don´t think there´s enough people working on it |
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| JALH | any more questions or whatever, I'll answer on #linux |
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| LarstiQ | viXard: "enough" ZealOS has 3 to 4 core members :) |
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| * LarstiQ should insert a ? and a , there |
| [freedom] | ok.. :) |
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| LarstiQ | viXard: It is making progress, there is being worked on, and even a release is planned |
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| * LarstiQ gets back to his regular network |
| viXard | hope so..... |
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| LarstiQ | 16 channels is just a wee bit overkill ;) |
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| LarstiQ | see you next time |
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| JALH | what is that ? |
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| JALH | opn? |
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| LarstiQ | yup |
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| JALH | ah |
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| LarstiQ | (and ircnet for some) |
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| JALH | zealos chan is #zealos on opn |
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| * LarstiQ waves and departs |
| End of #qc buffer Wed Dec 05 23:17:26 2001 |
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