kino_eng.txt

|Mixtli| traduccion aqui ? viXard aqui |Mixtli| okas... espero. viXard quienes traducirán al inglés? |Mixtli| npi de ingles. viXard tenemos voluntarios? |Mixtli| no mames.. yo quiero que traduzcan del ingles al espaniol. sarnold questions/comments in #qc viXard traductores por favor viXard necesitamos traductores |Mixtli| y donde puede estar del ingles a espaniol ? loki Next talk: 1900 slack hi acs! loki creo que ya empezo acs hola slack! loki ya mero comenzara viXard alguien traduce? tin_ if no one is going to translate i can try cored viXard yo puedo traducir cored viXard i can try too viXard empiecen por favor tin_ thanks to all for coming ... cored Today we will talk about video digital edition on windows cored i mean on linux tin_ there are lots fo things to say about video tin_ video is juist photograps that are continouosly emitedd tin_ but due to the visual system human beings have, we can cheat it tin_ and believe that 25 images per second are a continuaos movement tin_ in the near past video storage was analogic , but we are not going to talk about this tin_ we are goingo to talk about digital video tin_ 1 and 0s tin_ Lets talk about digital video cored we'll get center on the digital video cored and its posibilities tin_ GNU/linux is a wonderful mate , working with video tiri I recomend to put mode +m on this channel :) viXard EMPEROR, saca ese script por favor viXard o bájate del op tin_ why do we need technology? tin_ we can do it whit digital cams , anoalgic cams and then digitalize the signal ... tin_ tv signal... tin_ all of them are valid video sources to play with tin_ in this speech we are going to center in the semi-professional ones tin_ we are going to work with qualities near to the real tv programs tin_ until the MiniDV arrival, we were limited to cams , with qualities very far from professional ones tin_ quality is given by the resolution tin_ VSH is about 320x200 pixels of resolution tin_ but i'm not sure of the numbers ... tin_ now, we have evolved in the digital field to superior qualities tin_ like SVHS tin_ but the digital video entry has been a revolution tin_ digital MiniDV cams are about 600 EUR tin_ so the market has been filled with them tin_ if you want exact details about VHS cored if you want to know more details about VHS tin_ http://www.home-cinema-guide.co.uk/vhs2.htm tin_ and more info about digital cames (600-2400) at: http://www.imagendv.com/tabla.htm tin_ before buying a cam, thing , look at the photos , read help webpages --- cored you should look in the forums too tin_ well tin_ from now we are going to use the reference tin_ http://www.es.gnome.org/documentacion/articulos/kino/kino/ tin_ and we are going to center in the use of Kino cored a program for digital video editing tin_ a program speciall thought for the MiniDV video edition tin_ it is amined to be very easy to use tin_ and it is recommended to install from packagers tin_ because compilation can bring problems due to its library dependeces tin_ there are Debian and RH packages tin_ so installation is easy tin_ acs@linex:~$ dpkg -l | grep kino tin_ [20:26:20] <acs> ii kino 0.51-1 Non-linear editor for Digital Video data tin_ and i have a more modern version at /usr/local tin_ /usr/local/bin/kino --version tin_ [20:26:50] <acs> Preferences constructed tin_ [20:26:50] <acs> Gnome kino 0.6 cored when you compile cored the source code of kino is very easy to track down cored its made on c++ tin_ and uses several libaries that make a lot of the actual work tin_ e.g tin_ acs@linex:~$ ldd /usr/local/bin/kino | wc tin_ [20:28:29] <acs> 36 144 1985 cored its depend on cored 36 libs tin_ it depends on 36 libraries tin_ some of them: tin_ brom1394.so.0 => /usr/lib/librom1394.so.0 (0x40547000) tin_ [20:28:54] <acs> libavc1394.so.0 => /usr/lib/libavc1394.so.0 (0x4054a000) tin_ [20:28:54] <acs> libraw1394.so.5 => /usr/lib/libraw1394.so.5 (0x4054e000) tin_ [20:28:54] <acs> libdv.so.2 => /usr/lib/libdv.so.2 (0x40552000) cored this libs are for the ieee1394 speed cored and the video editing format tin_ we put the video into the computer , in order edit it... tin_ minidv record at 2GB/10min tin_ so dumping such straem in the PC cored its take us tin_ s/straem/stream cored about 20 Mbps tin_ more than 20 Mbps tin_ we can put it though USB2 tin_ but it is imposible por serial or paralel ports cored the fact is that all this flaw tin_ in fact it is doe cored goes in the high speed cored port ieee1394 tin_ putting the stream though the high speed iee1394 (FireWire) port tin_ port that is perfectly supported bye kernel 2.4 tin_ and by patches in the 2.2 tin_ with a very good stability tin_ so we are no going to have any problems with iee1394 tin_ look at: tin_ http://www.es.gnome.org/documentacion/articulos/kino/kino/modulos.jpg cored in this shot you have the necesari kernel config tin_ well, i have ther kernel ready tin_ so i plug my digital cam tin_ at the ieee1394 port tin_ as shown at tin_ http://www.es.gnome.org/documentacion/articulos/kino/kino/x78.html cored where you have photos of my cam cored and that i'll going to plug right nw cored s/nw/now cored nothing else to connect the camera the system recognizes such and as they show logs cored do you have any question? cored you have to make the question on #qc cored well lets keep going cored my kernel dosent have the ieee1394 support cored and i had to compile the modules cored its better to work with modules cored in case we have to upload it or load it cored and restar the cam comunication cored there are question * tin_ is back tin_ how can we connect the cam if we havent a iee1394? cored with kino can we control the cam cored ? tin_ there are PCI cards that provede us with ieee1394 ports cored like with premiere play and rewind buttons tin_ 2nd question: how can we connect the cam if we havent a iee1394? cored you can rewind the tape and make play with it tin_ there are PCI cards that provede us with ieee1394 ports , they are about 30 EUR cored with the ieee1394 we can connect hard drives cored for example, they are commenting to me that one of 200 GB costs 360 euros tin_ <viXard> Technical problems :) tin_ i apologize for the interrumtion tin_ we are here again tin_ we have already compiled the modules cored for the ieee1394 tin_ and loaded with modprobe video1394 cored and we load it modprobe video1394 tin_ once donde this tin_ when we plug our cam tin_ logs will say: tin_ Dec 10 20:45:12 localhost kernel: ieee1394: Host added: Node[00:1023] tin_ GUID[344fc00039709c10] [Linux OHCI-1394 tin_ that is, a new host has been added to the port tin_ (our dig. cam) cored that he is already available to be used from kino cored and is time to start kino tin_ now, the moment to start koni has arrived tin_ s/koni/kino cored viXard Let us wait for a second. tin_ we are at the end of tin_ http://es.gnome.org/documentacion/articulos/kino/kino/x78.html tin_ i've been asked if kino works with all tin_ minidv cams: the anser is YES cored since all of them support a common protocol tin_ because all of them support a common protocol tin_ . tin_ Lets start kino tin_ we see: tin_ http://es.gnome.org/documentacion/articulos/kino/kino/x106.html tin_ we are at the ediiotn screen tin_ but çwe have nothing to edit cored kino also works with MicroDV? tin_ <ximet> does kino also works with MicroDV? cored no i dont know that format tin_ asc: Sorry i dont know about the MicroDV format tin_ well. cored <ximet> the one of the MicroDV is the format of the new Sony... tin_ nest thing to be done is capture some scene from our camera tin_ if we press on the capture tab cored we can capture sequence tin_ as we can see in cored of video tin_ http://es.gnome.org/documentacion/articulos/kino/kino/captura1.jpg tin_ inside http://es.gnome.org/documentacion/articulos/kino/kino/x131.html cored where its explain the entire process, with details cored technical problems cored back cored i apoligize my fall tin_ well tin_ we were at the capture part: tin_ http://es.gnome.org/documentacion/articulos/kino/kino/x131.html tin_ we have captured the desired scenes form the recorded tape cored when we capture the desire escene cored the recorded tape is known with the name "gross" tin_ now, we are going to mount each on eof the secuences tin_ we can , in a very basic edition. tin_ cut video segments tin_ and put them in a single sequence cored and to join it in an only sequence that will be the published video tin_ whcich will be the edited video tin_ but kino allow us to join the seqs cored like we can see here: cored http://es.gnome.org/documentacion/articulos/kino/kino/x232.html tin_ is a more interesting way tin_ as we can see at: tin_ http://es.gnome.org/documentacion/articulos/kino/kino/x232.html tin_ in the tab FX tin_ we can join tow sequences with cored we can join 2 sequence with diferent effects tin_ different effects tin_ blanking out... cored or we even can apply effects to all a sequence cored we can of comfortable and fast form previsualize the effects cored and as they are before applying them cored applying them is not a very heavy process either cored when working with digital video without compressing cored enough express in the edition can be worked cored since we have already commented, we can capture video of análogicas sources, and Kino is able to incorporate it like sequence to the edition cored although still it is a functionality that is a little green cored you have more details in: cored http://es.gnome.org/documentacion/articulos/kino/kino/x256.html cored Once we have finished the assembly cored the moment arrives for exporting it to a compressed format of distribution cored since nobody would want something that occupied 2 GB each 10 min cored kino is able to export to several formats cored like SVCD cored but we can use transcode that still is able to export to more formats cored http://es.gnome.org/documentacion/articulos/kino/kino/x346.html cored <c58|slk> where can i download kino cored you can obtain it from http://kino.schirmacher.de/ cored although I recommend to you that you install it of packages cored once already installed cored you can test with more new versions cored well, now already we have our video in a format like DivX to be distributed cored burning it to a cd cored and we can share it with our family cored in order to remember that birthday or that wedding or to remember with the friends that cored trip cored in aim that nothing limits to you already:) cored finally cored here are some of the kino advanced features cored that they come from the certain hand of plugins cored one of them allows to label the video cored http://es.gnome.org/documentacion/articulos/kino/kino/x406.html cored and the other cored it can make really impressive effects cored http://es.gnome.org/documentacion/articulos/kino/kino/charcoal.jpg cored this last one is part of kinoplus cored http://es.gnome.org/documentacion/articulos/kino/kino/x406.html cored if you want to code kino plugins cored http://es.gnome.org/documentacion/articulos/kino/kino/x374.html cored its not a very complex task cored good, we have some pending question cored <bitland> according to the fast and approximated calculations, would be needed 18 GB hd for a film of a duration of average hour and, that usually is the habitual thing, that minimum benefits it has to have the computer where is executed so that he is viable using it? cored the computer really does not have to be very powerful cored we needed to have free space in the hard disk cored and soon, if we want to pass those 90 min = 18 GB to DivX for example because we will need several hours based on micro that we arrange cored its can takes you about 5 or 10 hours to put it in divx format cored those that you have passed DVDs to DivX you will know what costs; -) cored good, the talk is close now cored question time cored <bitland> it is possible to be used without problems in any other platform (mac, freebsd...) cored i suppose you are talking about kino cored then the truth, I suppose that yes, although you it could not assure cored but if there is drivers for ieee1394 cored maybe somebody have done the job cored <rawsock> had you test cinelerra? how its going? cored uy, this are greater words cored without a doubt, for the edition of professional video, Cinelerra is the best option viXard Well cored, i think you have done a great job cored thx viXard we couldn´t ask you for more :) cored something allows to have several flows of video during the edition that kino does not allow but more complex is enough small pause, to be asking in cored for the debian users: cored deb http://userpages.umbc.edu/~fu1/debian unstable main viXard i think is enough cored wellok viXard thanks every one, the Q&A will continue at #linux cored my fingers dosent have more power sarnold cored: thanks for translating :) sarnold cored: very nice ;) cored sarnold no problem cored <c58|slk> For example if I use my laptop to capture video, but I do not have the space sufficient podria to become by local network? cored hmmm, because you must have an excellent network to support the data flow. I do not believe that it is a viable option. He is better for example to put a connected extra hard disk to ieee1394:) cored <ximet> Ieee1394 can be used to capture video since it becomes from/the dev/video one cored I do not know the API accurately, but I believe that he is very similar. An eye to like doing plugin for kino throws that you got it examples cored <ximet> more than nothing to make "transmistions" in the network with ffmpeg, for example cored I finish remembering that the digital camcorder can be treated like/dev/video using certain programs cored viXard We thank for to Alvaro Castle by so splendid dissertation:) cored <viXard> PLAS PLAS PLAS PLAS PLAS PLAS PLAS !!!!! cored [16:42] <MJesus> clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap cored [16:42] <MJesus> clap clap clap clap clap clap cored :) Generated by irclog2html.pl by Jeff Waugh - find it at freshmeat.net!

`\|Mixtli\|`	`traduccion aqui ?`
`viXard`	`aqui`
`\|Mixtli\|`	`okas... espero.`
`viXard`	`quienes traducirán al inglés?`
`\|Mixtli\|`	`npi de ingles.`
`viXard`	`tenemos voluntarios?`
`\|Mixtli\|`	`no mames.. yo quiero que traduzcan del ingles al espaniol.`
`sarnold`	`questions/comments in #qc`
`viXard`	`traductores por favor`
`viXard`	`necesitamos traductores`
`\|Mixtli\|`	`y donde puede estar del ingles a espaniol ?`
`loki`	`Next talk: 1900`
`slack`	`hi acs!`
`loki`	`creo que ya empezo`
`acs`	`hola slack!`
`loki`	`ya mero comenzara`
`viXard`	`alguien traduce?`
`tin_`	`if no one is going to translate i can try`
`cored`	`viXard yo puedo traducir`
`cored`	`viXard i can try too`
`viXard`	`empiecen por favor`
`tin_`	`thanks to all for coming ...`
`cored`	`Today we will talk about video digital edition on windows`
`cored`	`i mean on linux`
`tin_`	`there are lots fo things to say about video`
`tin_`	`video is juist photograps that are continouosly emitedd`
`tin_`	`but due to the visual system human beings have, we can cheat it`
`tin_`	`and believe that 25 images per second are a continuaos movement`
`tin_`	`in the near past video storage was analogic , but we are not going to talk about this`
`tin_`	`we are goingo to talk about digital video`
`tin_`	`1 and 0s`
`tin_`	`Lets talk about digital video`
`cored`	`we'll get center on the digital video`
`cored`	`and its posibilities`
`tin_`	`GNU/linux is a wonderful mate , working with video`
`tiri`	`I recomend to put mode +m on this channel :)`
`viXard`	`EMPEROR, saca ese script por favor`
`viXard`	`o bájate del op`
`tin_`	`why do we need technology?`
`tin_`	`we can do it whit digital cams , anoalgic cams and then digitalize the signal ...`
`tin_`	`tv signal...`
`tin_`	`all of them are valid video sources to play with`
`tin_`	`in this speech we are going to center in the semi-professional ones`
`tin_`	`we are going to work with qualities near to the real tv programs`
`tin_`	`until the MiniDV arrival, we were limited to cams , with qualities very far from professional ones`
`tin_`	`quality is given by the resolution`
`tin_`	`VSH is about 320x200 pixels of resolution`
`tin_`	`but i'm not sure of the numbers ...`
`tin_`	`now, we have evolved in the digital field to superior qualities`
`tin_`	`like SVHS`
`tin_`	`but the digital video entry has been a revolution`
`tin_`	`digital MiniDV cams are about 600 EUR`
`tin_`	`so the market has been filled with them`
`tin_`	`if you want exact details about VHS`
`cored`	`if you want to know more details about VHS`
`tin_`	`http://www.home-cinema-guide.co.uk/vhs2.htm`
`tin_`	`and more info about digital cames (600-2400) at: http://www.imagendv.com/tabla.htm`
`tin_`	`before buying a cam, thing , look at the photos , read help webpages ---`
`cored`	`you should look in the forums too`
`tin_`	`well`
`tin_`	`from now we are going to use the reference`
`tin_`	`http://www.es.gnome.org/documentacion/articulos/kino/kino/`
`tin_`	`and we are going to center in the use of Kino`
`cored`	`a program for digital video editing`
`tin_`	`a program speciall thought for the MiniDV video edition`
`tin_`	`it is amined to be very easy to use`
`tin_`	`and it is recommended to install from packagers`
`tin_`	`because compilation can bring problems due to its library dependeces`
`tin_`	`there are Debian and RH packages`
`tin_`	`so installation is easy`
`tin_`	`acs@linex:~$ dpkg -l \| grep kino`
`tin_`	`[20:26:20] <acs> ii kino 0.51-1 Non-linear editor for Digital Video data`
`tin_`	`and i have a more modern version at /usr/local`
`tin_`	`/usr/local/bin/kino --version`
`tin_`	`[20:26:50] <acs> Preferences constructed`
`tin_`	`[20:26:50] <acs> Gnome kino 0.6`
`cored`	`when you compile`
`cored`	`the source code of kino is very easy to track down`
`cored`	`its made on c++`
`tin_`	`and uses several libaries that make a lot of the actual work`
`tin_`	`e.g`
`tin_`	`acs@linex:~$ ldd /usr/local/bin/kino \| wc`
`tin_`	`[20:28:29] <acs> 36 144 1985`
`cored`	`its depend on`
`cored`	`36 libs`
`tin_`	`it depends on 36 libraries`
`tin_`	`some of them:`
`tin_`	`brom1394.so.0 => /usr/lib/librom1394.so.0 (0x40547000)`
`tin_`	`[20:28:54] <acs> libavc1394.so.0 => /usr/lib/libavc1394.so.0 (0x4054a000)`
`tin_`	`[20:28:54] <acs> libraw1394.so.5 => /usr/lib/libraw1394.so.5 (0x4054e000)`
`tin_`	`[20:28:54] <acs> libdv.so.2 => /usr/lib/libdv.so.2 (0x40552000)`
`cored`	`this libs are for the ieee1394 speed`
`cored`	`and the video editing format`
`tin_`	`we put the video into the computer , in order edit it...`
`tin_`	`minidv record at 2GB/10min`
`tin_`	`so dumping such straem in the PC`
`cored`	`its take us`
`tin_`	`s/straem/stream`
`cored`	`about 20 Mbps`
`tin_`	`more than 20 Mbps`
`tin_`	`we can put it though USB2`
`tin_`	`but it is imposible por serial or paralel ports`
`cored`	`the fact is that all this flaw`
`tin_`	`in fact it is doe`
`cored`	`goes in the high speed`
`cored`	`port ieee1394`
`tin_`	`putting the stream though the high speed iee1394 (FireWire) port`
`tin_`	`port that is perfectly supported bye kernel 2.4`
`tin_`	`and by patches in the 2.2`
`tin_`	`with a very good stability`
`tin_`	`so we are no going to have any problems with iee1394`
`tin_`	`look at:`
`tin_`	`http://www.es.gnome.org/documentacion/articulos/kino/kino/modulos.jpg`
`cored`	`in this shot you have the necesari kernel config`
`tin_`	`well, i have ther kernel ready`
`tin_`	`so i plug my digital cam`
`tin_`	`at the ieee1394 port`
`tin_`	`as shown at`
`tin_`	`http://www.es.gnome.org/documentacion/articulos/kino/kino/x78.html`
`cored`	`where you have photos of my cam`
`cored`	`and that i'll going to plug right nw`
`cored`	`s/nw/now`
`cored`	`nothing else to connect the camera the system recognizes such and as they show logs`
`cored`	`do you have any question?`
`cored`	`you have to make the question on #qc`
`cored`	`well lets keep going`
`cored`	`my kernel dosent have the ieee1394 support`
`cored`	`and i had to compile the modules`
`cored`	`its better to work with modules`
`cored`	`in case we have to upload it or load it`
`cored`	`and restar the cam comunication`
`cored`	`there are question`
`* tin_ is back`
`tin_`	`how can we connect the cam if we havent a iee1394?`
`cored`	`with kino can we control the cam`
`cored`	`?`
`tin_`	`there are PCI cards that provede us with ieee1394 ports`
`cored`	`like with premiere play and rewind buttons`
`tin_`	`2nd question: how can we connect the cam if we havent a iee1394?`
`cored`	`you can rewind the tape and make play with it`
`tin_`	`there are PCI cards that provede us with ieee1394 ports , they are about 30 EUR`
`cored`	`with the ieee1394 we can connect hard drives`
`cored`	`for example, they are commenting to me that one of 200 GB costs 360 euros`
`tin_`	`<viXard> Technical problems :)`
`tin_`	`i apologize for the interrumtion`
`tin_`	`we are here again`
`tin_`	`we have already compiled the modules`
`cored`	`for the ieee1394`
`tin_`	`and loaded with modprobe video1394`
`cored`	`and we load it modprobe video1394`
`tin_`	`once donde this`
`tin_`	`when we plug our cam`
`tin_`	`logs will say:`
`tin_`	`Dec 10 20:45:12 localhost kernel: ieee1394: Host added: Node[00:1023]`
`tin_`	`GUID[344fc00039709c10] [Linux OHCI-1394`
`tin_`	`that is, a new host has been added to the port`
`tin_`	`(our dig. cam)`
`cored`	`that he is already available to be used from kino`
`cored`	`and is time to start kino`
`tin_`	`now, the moment to start koni has arrived`
`tin_`	`s/koni/kino`
`cored`	`viXard Let us wait for a second.`
`tin_`	`we are at the end of`
`tin_`	`http://es.gnome.org/documentacion/articulos/kino/kino/x78.html`
`tin_`	`i've been asked if kino works with all`
`tin_`	`minidv cams: the anser is YES`
`cored`	`since all of them support a common protocol`
`tin_`	`because all of them support a common protocol`
`tin_`	`.`
`tin_`	`Lets start kino`
`tin_`	`we see:`
`tin_`	`http://es.gnome.org/documentacion/articulos/kino/kino/x106.html`
`tin_`	`we are at the ediiotn screen`
`tin_`	`but çwe have nothing to edit`
`cored`	`kino also works with MicroDV?`
`tin_`	`<ximet> does kino also works with MicroDV?`
`cored`	`no i dont know that format`
`tin_`	`asc: Sorry i dont know about the MicroDV format`
`tin_`	`well.`
`cored`	`<ximet> the one of the MicroDV is the format of the new Sony...`
`tin_`	`nest thing to be done is capture some scene from our camera`
`tin_`	`if we press on the capture tab`
`cored`	`we can capture sequence`
`tin_`	`as we can see in`
`cored`	`of video`
`tin_`	`http://es.gnome.org/documentacion/articulos/kino/kino/captura1.jpg`
`tin_`	`inside http://es.gnome.org/documentacion/articulos/kino/kino/x131.html`
`cored`	`where its explain the entire process, with details`
`cored`	`technical problems`
`cored`	`back`
`cored`	`i apoligize my fall`
`tin_`	`well`
`tin_`	`we were at the capture part:`
`tin_`	`http://es.gnome.org/documentacion/articulos/kino/kino/x131.html`
`tin_`	`we have captured the desired scenes form the recorded tape`
`cored`	`when we capture the desire escene`
`cored`	`the recorded tape is known with the name "gross"`
`tin_`	`now, we are going to mount each on eof the secuences`
`tin_`	`we can , in a very basic edition.`
`tin_`	`cut video segments`
`tin_`	`and put them in a single sequence`
`cored`	`and to join it in an only sequence that will be the published video`
`tin_`	`whcich will be the edited video`
`tin_`	`but kino allow us to join the seqs`
`cored`	`like we can see here:`
`cored`	`http://es.gnome.org/documentacion/articulos/kino/kino/x232.html`
`tin_`	`is a more interesting way`
`tin_`	`as we can see at:`
`tin_`	`http://es.gnome.org/documentacion/articulos/kino/kino/x232.html`
`tin_`	`in the tab FX`
`tin_`	`we can join tow sequences with`
`cored`	`we can join 2 sequence with diferent effects`
`tin_`	`different effects`
`tin_`	`blanking out...`
`cored`	`or we even can apply effects to all a sequence`
`cored`	`we can of comfortable and fast form previsualize the effects`
`cored`	`and as they are before applying them`
`cored`	`applying them is not a very heavy process either`
`cored`	`when working with digital video without compressing`
`cored`	`enough express in the edition can be worked`
`cored`	`since we have already commented, we can capture video of análogicas sources, and Kino is able to incorporate it like sequence to the edition`
`cored`	`although still it is a functionality that is a little green`
`cored`	`you have more details in:`
`cored`	`http://es.gnome.org/documentacion/articulos/kino/kino/x256.html`
`cored`	`Once we have finished the assembly`
`cored`	`the moment arrives for exporting it to a compressed format of distribution`
`cored`	`since nobody would want something that occupied 2 GB each 10 min`
`cored`	`kino is able to export to several formats`
`cored`	`like SVCD`
`cored`	`but we can use transcode that still is able to export to more formats`
`cored`	`http://es.gnome.org/documentacion/articulos/kino/kino/x346.html`
`cored`	`<c58\|slk> where can i download kino`
`cored`	`you can obtain it from http://kino.schirmacher.de/`
`cored`	`although I recommend to you that you install it of packages`
`cored`	`once already installed`
`cored`	`you can test with more new versions`
`cored`	`well, now already we have our video in a format like DivX to be distributed`
`cored`	`burning it to a cd`
`cored`	`and we can share it with our family`
`cored`	`in order to remember that birthday or that wedding or to remember with the friends that`
`cored`	`trip`
`cored`	`in aim that nothing limits to you already:)`
`cored`	`finally`
`cored`	`here are some of the kino advanced features`
`cored`	`that they come from the certain hand of plugins`
`cored`	`one of them allows to label the video`
`cored`	`http://es.gnome.org/documentacion/articulos/kino/kino/x406.html`
`cored`	`and the other`
`cored`	`it can make really impressive effects`
`cored`	`http://es.gnome.org/documentacion/articulos/kino/kino/charcoal.jpg`
`cored`	`this last one is part of kinoplus`
`cored`	`http://es.gnome.org/documentacion/articulos/kino/kino/x406.html`
`cored`	`if you want to code kino plugins`
`cored`	`http://es.gnome.org/documentacion/articulos/kino/kino/x374.html`
`cored`	`its not a very complex task`
`cored`	`good, we have some pending question`
`cored`	`<bitland> according to the fast and approximated calculations, would be needed 18 GB hd for a film of a duration of average hour and, that usually is the habitual thing, that minimum benefits it has to have the computer where is executed so that he is viable using it?`
`cored`	`the computer really does not have to be very powerful`
`cored`	`we needed to have free space in the hard disk`
`cored`	`and soon, if we want to pass those 90 min = 18 GB to DivX for example because we will need several hours based on micro that we arrange`
`cored`	`its can takes you about 5 or 10 hours to put it in divx format`
`cored`	`those that you have passed DVDs to DivX you will know what costs; -)`
`cored`	`good, the talk is close now`
`cored`	`question time`
`cored`	`<bitland> it is possible to be used without problems in any other platform (mac, freebsd...)`
`cored`	`i suppose you are talking about kino`
`cored`	`then the truth, I suppose that yes, although you it could not assure`
`cored`	`but if there is drivers for ieee1394`
`cored`	`maybe somebody have done the job`
`cored`	`<rawsock> had you test cinelerra? how its going?`
`cored`	`uy, this are greater words`
`cored`	`without a doubt, for the edition of professional video, Cinelerra is the best option`
`viXard`	`Well cored, i think you have done a great job`
`cored`	`thx`
`viXard`	`we couldn´t ask you for more :)`
`cored`	`something allows to have several flows of video during the edition that kino does not allow but more complex is enough small pause, to be asking in`
`cored`	`for the debian users:`
`cored`	`deb http://userpages.umbc.edu/~fu1/debian unstable main`
`viXard`	`i think is enough`
`cored`	`wellok`
`viXard`	`thanks every one, the Q&A will continue at #linux`
`cored`	`my fingers dosent have more power`
`sarnold`	`cored: thanks for translating :)`
`sarnold`	`cored: very nice ;)`
`cored`	`sarnold no problem`
`cored`	`<c58\|slk> For example if I use my laptop to capture video, but I do not have the space sufficient podria to become by local network?`
`cored`	`hmmm, because you must have an excellent network to support the data flow. I do not believe that it is a viable option. He is better for example to put a connected extra hard disk to ieee1394:)`
`cored`	`<ximet> Ieee1394 can be used to capture video since it becomes from/the dev/video one`
`cored`	`I do not know the API accurately, but I believe that he is very similar. An eye to like doing plugin for kino throws that you got it examples`
`cored`	`<ximet> more than nothing to make "transmistions" in the network with ffmpeg, for example`
`cored`	`I finish remembering that the digital camcorder can be treated like/dev/video using certain programs`
`cored`	`viXard We thank for to Alvaro Castle by so splendid dissertation:)`
`cored`	`<viXard> PLAS PLAS PLAS PLAS PLAS PLAS PLAS !!!!!`
`cored`	`[16:42] <MJesus> clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap clap`
`cored`	`[16:42] <MJesus> clap clap clap clap clap clap`
`cored`	`:)`